Oh, lordy…..poor … Oh, lordy…..poor McCain. This old man is a legend in his own mind. Any credibility he had during his long service was blown to when he picked Sister Sarah, the talking puppet as his running mate.
He’s just another old with a big mouth living in his “good old days” when his opinion counted and people listened to him.
Come on Topgun! … Come on Topgun! This silliness has nothing to do with liability insurance where u cover someone else in case u give them an infectious disease. And even if it was that’s certainly no excuse for the gov to hijack 20% of our economy at a cost of trillions that our great grandkids will have to pay back. There r you tube videos where you can see pelosi talking about jail time for those who refuse to buy gov health care insurance.
LOL! I’m down with … LOL! I’m down with that premise! Anyone who wants the gov running their life should be able to let reid and pelosi tell then how to live as long as they leave the rest of US alone.
Yes because you … Yes because you could never harm anyone else by passing them an infectious disease…
also, where exactly in either of the bills does it specifically say u have to buy GOVERNMENT health care? i know there’s a mandate to buy health care, i don’t think it means just government health care though…
Third, your a birther? well that explains some things…
IT IS ABSOLUTELY … IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE that I am an insurance agent; and can tell you with all certainty that NONE of the men on the LEFT understood what the men on the RIGHT were talking about. But I can tell you this: AMERICANS not only UNDERSTAND what the men in the right were talking about, they KNOW it; and for the first time [in a long time], SAW how much the men on the LEFT didn’t.
Wow! That’s … Wow! That’s stunning! I guess WE THE PEOPLE are to blame for allowing our gov to get in this condition by allowing politicians to lie to US repeatedly. We can fix this mess if enough people keep on waking up & refusing to function within the democrat/republican paradigm. All of America should be focused on eliminating the federal reserve. Once they r out of the way our economy will have a decent chance of recovery.
Sonicnout I … Sonicnout I personally believe that the free market/massive competition will take care of insurance companies exploiting most people. Not all insurance companies r bad & many will have to rewrite their policies. If insurance becomes so cheap & a company doesn’t get enough clients they will have to pay out less. But then people will free to get other policies if they so choose. I love it! It’s called FREEDOM! We don’t need the gov managing our lives we can do that for ourselves.
30 to 50% of … 30 to 50% of property taxes go towards the pension funds of government workers
The Feds are a little more discret. But if people are able to retire at 80% of their pay. It sound to me after military spending is removed the Feds are even worse then local government.
Remember all the stimulius mney fot tranportation. My governor said why should I spend the gas tax. He funnel at that money into shoring up pension funds.
What? R u kidding … What? R u kidding me? I guess that makes sense because where would the money come from to pay gov pension plans if not from the taxpayers since the gov doesn’t actually produce anything. That’s the one area where jobs are not being cut. They just hired 2000 IRS agents to come after US regular folks. Yet 50 people who work in the white house have not even filed taxes. I’ve never even thought about who pays gov pension plans & now that I’m aware of it I’m even more repulsed.
I see your point … I see your point but the gov could cover everyone who is uncovered for 38 to 40 billion a year. They still have most of the stimulus money. I don’t like that option but it’s much better than a total takeover of the health care system hat will eventually cost multiple trillions. On top of that Obama has already quadrupled what Bush tripled in 8 years. We just don’t have the money. This is not about covering the uninsured; this is a governmental power grab.
The guy who just … The guy who just shot two students in Denver had reportedly wanted to seek psychiatric help, but couldn’t afford it. If we had had some form of universal health care he would have at least had the option to seek help before his problems became dangerous. People are driven to the streets constantly because of medical bankruptcies. Does having an increasing amount of unhealthy destitute citizens make anybody safer? I don’t think so. A nation has a self interest in keeping it’s people healthy.
I can see the point … I can see the point people are making about crossing state lines, the concern is that if state to state restrictions are eased, all insurance companies would relocate to states where regulations are weaker, allowing them to get away with paying out even less coverage and exploiting sick Americans even more. Reducing state-to-state restrictions on patients may be good, but on insurance companies, maybe not so much.
Topgun auto … Topgun auto insurance is different because if you get into an accident you could harm someone else. That’s not the case with health care; and also if the gov really wanted to cover everyone they still have most of the stimulus money left & for 40 billion a year they could cover all of the uninsured without the gov federalizing the health care system. But aside from that it’s unconstitutional nor is it about health care. The so called benefits don’t start until 2014 yet they tried to slam it thru
That is correct … That is correct Topgun! The mandate for US to buy gov issue health care insurance was hidden in the first 1100 page bill that they slammed through congress. Obviously u want the gov in control of the health care system? The same people we’ve been watching bribe each with our tax dollars. The same administration that keeps hiring communists & eugenicists as top advisors. I even heard the president say that he was not for a single payer system; then he said that he was for a single payer system.
LOL! Thanks for … LOL! Thanks for calling me an idiot; I won’t return the favor; I’m a quasi fan of Fox News; I don’t trust them completely. I believe that we should be allowed to buy insurance across state lines and that would drive the cost down dramatically. Any company that had a history of denying coverage would be forced out of business because there would be tons of other choices. I don’t know what you meant by the election being over but I’ve never belonged to either party nor do I plan to.
First, the mandate … First, the mandate doesn’t require you buy GOVERNMENT health care…
Second, if the government doesn’t have the right to require you buy health care, it also doesn’t have the right to require you buy auto insurance, right..?
ericjaynelson you … ericjaynelson you sir are an idiot. The election is over and has been for quite some time. It is simpletons like you who have to leave three or four messages to get a point across. Looks to be 4 minute intervals that these redundant thoughts come into your little brain. SERIOUSLY BRO, your saying the man isn’t an American, wow that’s original. Another moron who thinks everything FOX news reports is fact. Do you really think Americans want insurance companies to deny coverage because your sick!!
Here’s the bottom … Here’s the bottom line, we have (so called) representatives who want to put US in jail for not buying government health care insurance. That’s unconstitutional! Yet there is no echo chamber in the media. It’s unconstitutional and that should end the discussion. How our servants could even consider such evil legislation should be the main point of discussion. Rules For Radicals is not our governing doctrine nor will it ever be!
I keep hearing now … I keep hearing now that the president isn’t even a legal citizen. He still has not produced a birth certificate & now Arizona is about to pass a law that says that he must produce a birth certificate if he plans on running again. That’s awesome, but he needs to knock off the silliness & produce a birth certificate NOW! They r now saying his real name is Barry Setoro.
folks lets show … folks lets show these some bi-partision support – liberals conservative, commies, democrats, republican lets all recommend cutting off tax payer money for government pension funds.
Oh, lordy…..poor …
Oh, lordy…..poor McCain. This old man is a legend in his own mind. Any credibility he had during his long service was blown to when he picked Sister Sarah, the talking puppet as his running mate.
He’s just another old with a big mouth living in his “good old days” when his opinion counted and people listened to him.
His day is over.
Come on Topgun! …
Come on Topgun! This silliness has nothing to do with liability insurance where u cover someone else in case u give them an infectious disease. And even if it was that’s certainly no excuse for the gov to hijack 20% of our economy at a cost of trillions that our great grandkids will have to pay back. There r you tube videos where you can see pelosi talking about jail time for those who refuse to buy gov health care insurance.
LOL! I’m down with …
LOL! I’m down with that premise! Anyone who wants the gov running their life should be able to let reid and pelosi tell then how to live as long as they leave the rest of US alone.
and yes, WE are
and yes, WE are
How about the …
How about the freedom to chose a public option?
all in the name of freedom of course…
Yes because you …
Yes because you could never harm anyone else by passing them an infectious disease…
also, where exactly in either of the bills does it specifically say u have to buy GOVERNMENT health care? i know there’s a mandate to buy health care, i don’t think it means just government health care though…
Third, your a birther? well that explains some things…
IT IS ABSOLUTELY …
IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE that I am an insurance agent; and can tell you with all certainty that NONE of the men on the LEFT understood what the men on the RIGHT were talking about. But I can tell you this: AMERICANS not only UNDERSTAND what the men in the right were talking about, they KNOW it; and for the first time [in a long time], SAW how much the men on the LEFT didn’t.
Blessings,
Leo
Wow! That’s …
Wow! That’s stunning! I guess WE THE PEOPLE are to blame for allowing our gov to get in this condition by allowing politicians to lie to US repeatedly. We can fix this mess if enough people keep on waking up & refusing to function within the democrat/republican paradigm. All of America should be focused on eliminating the federal reserve. Once they r out of the way our economy will have a decent chance of recovery.
Sonicnout I …
Sonicnout I personally believe that the free market/massive competition will take care of insurance companies exploiting most people. Not all insurance companies r bad & many will have to rewrite their policies. If insurance becomes so cheap & a company doesn’t get enough clients they will have to pay out less. But then people will free to get other policies if they so choose. I love it! It’s called FREEDOM! We don’t need the gov managing our lives we can do that for ourselves.
30 to 50% of …
30 to 50% of property taxes go towards the pension funds of government workers
The Feds are a little more discret. But if people are able to retire at 80% of their pay. It sound to me after military spending is removed the Feds are even worse then local government.
Remember all the stimulius mney fot tranportation. My governor said why should I spend the gas tax. He funnel at that money into shoring up pension funds.
What? R u kidding …
What? R u kidding me? I guess that makes sense because where would the money come from to pay gov pension plans if not from the taxpayers since the gov doesn’t actually produce anything. That’s the one area where jobs are not being cut. They just hired 2000 IRS agents to come after US regular folks. Yet 50 people who work in the white house have not even filed taxes. I’ve never even thought about who pays gov pension plans & now that I’m aware of it I’m even more repulsed.
Thanks Superdoglick …
Thanks Superdoglick! That really makes me feel better. LOL!
I see your point …
I see your point but the gov could cover everyone who is uncovered for 38 to 40 billion a year. They still have most of the stimulus money. I don’t like that option but it’s much better than a total takeover of the health care system hat will eventually cost multiple trillions. On top of that Obama has already quadrupled what Bush tripled in 8 years. We just don’t have the money. This is not about covering the uninsured; this is a governmental power grab.
Yeah, he has the …
Yeah, he has the chicago task force working on it.
The guy who just …
The guy who just shot two students in Denver had reportedly wanted to seek psychiatric help, but couldn’t afford it. If we had had some form of universal health care he would have at least had the option to seek help before his problems became dangerous. People are driven to the streets constantly because of medical bankruptcies. Does having an increasing amount of unhealthy destitute citizens make anybody safer? I don’t think so. A nation has a self interest in keeping it’s people healthy.
I can see the point …
I can see the point people are making about crossing state lines, the concern is that if state to state restrictions are eased, all insurance companies would relocate to states where regulations are weaker, allowing them to get away with paying out even less coverage and exploiting sick Americans even more. Reducing state-to-state restrictions on patients may be good, but on insurance companies, maybe not so much.
Topgun auto …
Topgun auto insurance is different because if you get into an accident you could harm someone else. That’s not the case with health care; and also if the gov really wanted to cover everyone they still have most of the stimulus money left & for 40 billion a year they could cover all of the uninsured without the gov federalizing the health care system. But aside from that it’s unconstitutional nor is it about health care. The so called benefits don’t start until 2014 yet they tried to slam it thru
That is correct …
That is correct Topgun! The mandate for US to buy gov issue health care insurance was hidden in the first 1100 page bill that they slammed through congress. Obviously u want the gov in control of the health care system? The same people we’ve been watching bribe each with our tax dollars. The same administration that keeps hiring communists & eugenicists as top advisors. I even heard the president say that he was not for a single payer system; then he said that he was for a single payer system.
LOL! Thanks for …
LOL! Thanks for calling me an idiot; I won’t return the favor; I’m a quasi fan of Fox News; I don’t trust them completely. I believe that we should be allowed to buy insurance across state lines and that would drive the cost down dramatically. Any company that had a history of denying coverage would be forced out of business because there would be tons of other choices. I don’t know what you meant by the election being over but I’ve never belonged to either party nor do I plan to.
First, the mandate …
First, the mandate doesn’t require you buy GOVERNMENT health care…
Second, if the government doesn’t have the right to require you buy health care, it also doesn’t have the right to require you buy auto insurance, right..?
ericjaynelson you …
ericjaynelson you sir are an idiot. The election is over and has been for quite some time. It is simpletons like you who have to leave three or four messages to get a point across. Looks to be 4 minute intervals that these redundant thoughts come into your little brain. SERIOUSLY BRO, your saying the man isn’t an American, wow that’s original. Another moron who thinks everything FOX news reports is fact. Do you really think Americans want insurance companies to deny coverage because your sick!!
Here’s the bottom …
Here’s the bottom line, we have (so called) representatives who want to put US in jail for not buying government health care insurance. That’s unconstitutional! Yet there is no echo chamber in the media. It’s unconstitutional and that should end the discussion. How our servants could even consider such evil legislation should be the main point of discussion. Rules For Radicals is not our governing doctrine nor will it ever be!
I keep hearing now …
I keep hearing now that the president isn’t even a legal citizen. He still has not produced a birth certificate & now Arizona is about to pass a law that says that he must produce a birth certificate if he plans on running again. That’s awesome, but he needs to knock off the silliness & produce a birth certificate NOW! They r now saying his real name is Barry Setoro.
Did the president …
Did the president just say they wanted to eliminate fraud and abuse???? LOL!
folks lets show …
folks lets show these some bi-partision support – liberals conservative, commies, democrats, republican lets all recommend cutting off tax payer money for government pension funds.